In closely related vessels, chamfering of the vein minimises kinking with a minimal loss of venous length. However, with widely spaced vessels chamfering alone does not prevent kinking and may serve to significantly shorten the draining vein. Figure 1B shows that when the vein is anastomosed directly 'as it lies', without rotation, the length disparity between the heel and toe of the anastomosis leads to kinking of the vein at point X, the apex of the fistula. DISCUSSION Figure 1C shows that by rotating the vein through 90º, from the 'as it lies' position, prior to anastomosis, heel to toe length disparities are minimised, thereby avoiding kinking of the draining vein and maintaining flow and patency. ment, seroma fluid can be briskly evacuated into the 400ml vacuum drain. This can be disconnected and replaced via the Luer lock connector should further drainage be required, without re-siting the needle or compromising sterility of the closed system. If a sterile fluid sample is required, this can be taken from the drain following aspiration. DISCUSSION The causes of seromas are not fully understood although increased age, weight, lymphatic disruption and use of extensive electrocautery have been implicated. 1,2 Numerous treatments for seromas have been trialled including fibrin-based glues, 3 pressure garments, and local application of corticosteroids 4 and sclerosants such as erythromycin. 5 None eliminate occurrence conclusively.Our method for drainage avoids the need for awkward syringe aspiration, which can be time consuming and uncomfortable for the patient. The technique is versatile and can also be used for other procedures such as conservative aspiration of a large scrotal hydrocoele. High success rates have resulted in the technique of anastomosis remaining largely unchanged since this time. Here we describe a refinement on this technique that optimises venous length and helps prevent kinking of the draining AV fistula vein. TECHNIQUE Often the vein and artery are closely related, allowing side-to-side anastomosis or end-to-side anastomosis with a chamfered vein. In some instances there is a significant distance between artery and vein, especially in the antecubital fossa, when an almost 90º AV anastomosis may be required. In this situation maintenance of venous length is pivotal to avoid anastomotic tension and twisting that may preclude fistula maturation.