“…While the principal legacy of Mead's remarks has been the epistemological concerns of SOC, as developed by Heinz von Foerster (1995, 1 Together with Neil Spiller, Ranulph supervised my PhD research and although this article has been developed after his passing, it is significantly influenced by my conversations with him. In addition to his work, on the relationship between cybernetics and design see also: Pangaro (2007, 2015); Fischer (2015); Fischer and Richards (in press);Furtado Cardoso Lopes (2008; Gage (2006Gage ( , 2007aGage ( , 2007b; Goodbun (2011);Herr (2015); Jonas (2007aJonas ( , 2007bJonas ( , 2012Jonas ( , 2014Jonas ( , 2015aJonas ( , 2015b; P. Jones (2014); Krippendorff (2007); Krueger (2007); Lautenschlaeger and Pratschke (2011);Lobsinger (2000); Mathews (2005Mathews ( , 2006Mathews ( , 2007; Pratschke (2007); Ramsgard Thomsen (2007); Rawes (2007); Spiller (2002);Sweeting (2014Sweeting ( , 2015c 2003a) and others, their original context is that of the practice of the society itself. It is this aspect to which the ASC returned during Glanville's presidency, in terms of both the form and content of its conferences, which explored cybernetics' relation to practice using conversational, cybernetic, formats (Baron, Glanville, Griffiths, & Sweeting 2015;Glanville 2011bGlanville , 2012Glanville, Griffiths, & Baron 2014;Glanville & Sweeting 2011;van Ditmar & Glanv...…”