“…Usually, at least in most fisheries contexts, there are some set of surveys that can estimate the abundances or biomasses of both predators and prey in a given ecosystem, which can then be statistically linked (e.g., GLMs relating abundance to % BW consumed or to other consumption values; sensu Overholtz et al, 2008) or linked via process modeling (e.g., various functional response forms; sensu Moustahfid et al, 2010). Certainly using such an indirect approach may initially only provide contextual information in stock assessments, perhaps only informing suggested revisions to M or Z (e.g., the Pandalus example above; NEFSC, 2007;Link and Idoine, 2009). And certainly the sensitivities to the parameters and functional forms will need to be examined and presented in full sensitivity or risk analysis contexts (Punt and Butterworth, 1995;Peterman, 2004;Kinzey and Punt, 2009).…”