Abstract. Let g → g * denote an involution on a group G. For any (commutative, associative) ring R (with 1), * extends linearly to an involution of the group ring RG. An element α ∈ RG is symmetric if α * = α and skew-symmetric if α * = −α. The skew-symmetric elements are closed under the Lie bracket, [α, β] = αβ − βα. In this paper, we investigate when this set is also closed under the ring product in RG. The symmetric elements are closed under the Jordan product, α • β = αβ + βα. Here, we determine when this product is trivial. These two problems are analogues of problems about the skew-symmetric and symmetric elements in group rings that have received a lot of attention.