“…Heisenberg (1959,1971), Grete Hermann (2017), Wolfgang Pauli (1994), John von Neumann (1955Neumann ( [1932), Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker (2006Weizsäcker ( [1985), and others that are together sometimes referred to as the Copenhagen group of interpretations, though they do not constitute a single unified view (see Howard, 2004). More recent offshoots of the orthodox branch include the objectivist neo-Copenhagen interpretations of, for instance, Brukner (2017); Bub (2016Bub ( , 2017; Bub & Pitowsky (2010); Demopoulos (2012Demopoulos ( , 2018; Janas et al (2022); Pitowsky (1989Pitowsky ( , 2006; 50 the subjectivist interpretation called QBism (Fuchs, Mermin, & Schack, 2014;Fuchs, 2017); Richard Healey's (2012; pragmatist interpretation; Carlo Rovelli's (1996; relational interpretation, and others. 51 Orthodox interpretations, which deny that we should think of a system as having an observer-independent state, will truly seem radical for someone who finds it hard to imagine describing reality in an observer-dependent way.…”