We study nonnegative solutions of parabolic-parabolic Keller-Segel minimal-chemotaxis-growth systems with prototype given byin a smooth bounded smooth but not necessarily convex domain Ω ⊂ R n (n ≥ 3) with nonnegative initial data u0, v0 and homogeneous Neumann boundary data, where d1, d2, α, β, µ > 0, χ, κ ∈ R.We provide quantitative and qualitative descriptions of the competition between logistic damping and other ingredients, especially, chemotactic aggregation to guarantee boundedness and convergence. Specifically, we first obtain an explicit formula µ0 = µ0(n, d1, d2, α, χ) for the logistic damping rate µ such that the system has no blow-ups whenever µ > µ0. In particular, for Ω ⊂ R 3 , we get a clean formula for µ0:2000 Mathematics Subject Classification. Primary: 35K59, 35K51, 35K57, 92C17; Secondary: 35B44, 35A01.