2003
DOI: 10.1191/0267658303sr216oa
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Revisiting the comparative fallacy: a reply to Lakshmanan and Selinker, 2001

Abstract: In a recent airing of methodological concerns in the analysis of spontaneous speech samples, Lakshmanan and Selinker (2001) suggest that Lardiere (1998a) should have carried out analyses of lexical aspect and discourse grounding in determining obligatory contexts for past tense marking. Failure to do so, they argue, renders the work in question susceptible to the comparative fallacy (Bley-Vroman, 1983). In this reply I would like to briefly address some of the problems with that argument, while showing that su… Show more

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“…As discussed in the Introduction, longitudinal studies of morphological development suggest that incongruent morphemes seem to resist acquisition in adult learners. Such resistance was observed in Patty, a Chinese ESL speaker in Lardiere's (1998, 2003) study, whose past tense accuracy in spontaneous oral production remained below 40% over a period of 18 years. Similarly, Long's (2003) Japanese‐speaking participant, Ayako, had difficulty in developing nativelike accuracy in plural marking.…”
Section: Discussionmentioning
confidence: 88%
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“…As discussed in the Introduction, longitudinal studies of morphological development suggest that incongruent morphemes seem to resist acquisition in adult learners. Such resistance was observed in Patty, a Chinese ESL speaker in Lardiere's (1998, 2003) study, whose past tense accuracy in spontaneous oral production remained below 40% over a period of 18 years. Similarly, Long's (2003) Japanese‐speaking participant, Ayako, had difficulty in developing nativelike accuracy in plural marking.…”
Section: Discussionmentioning
confidence: 88%
“…There are indications of such a morphological congruency effect in the literature. One such indication is that when advanced L2 learners have been found to have great difficulty in performing in a nativelike manner with respect to plural or past tense marking, they have often turned out to be individuals whose L1 does not have an obligatory grammaticalized plural or tense marker (Jia, 2003; Lardiere, 1998, 2003; Long, 2003; Schmidt, 1983). These studies are similar in several important ways.…”
Section: The Morphological Congruency Hypothesismentioning
confidence: 99%
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“…Han (2004: 232) tõdeb, et suurem osa empiirilisi uurimusi ei ole pikaajalised, mistõttu kivinemist ainult oletatakse, aga mitte ei tehta kindlaks pikaajalise jälgimise teel. Inglise keelt teise keelena õppijate vahekeelt käsitlevatest uurimustest on rohkesti tähelepanu pälvinud Donna Lardiere (1998Lardiere ( , 2003 pikaajalised uurimused hiinlasest informandi Patty inglise keele pronoomenikäänete ning ajavormide kasutusest 8-aastase ajavahemiku jooksul, mille tulemused näitasid pronoomenikasutuse arenemist emakeelekõnelejatega võrdsele tasemele, samas kui ajavormide osas kivines informandi vahekeel teatud etapil enne sihtkeele kuju saavutamist.…”
Section: Kivinemise Uurimise Võimalusiunclassified