Socratic Self-Knowledge and "Knowledge of Knowledge" in Plato's Charmides

McKim, R. J.

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“…7. 44 See also McKim 1985, cited by Kahn 1988 of the Socratic method would require Platonic metaphysics and epistemology. On this view, the dialogue offers a positive definition of sôphrosynê in terms of knowledge of the good, implicitly relates that conception of the virtue to the practice of dialectic and the acquisition of the 'royal art', and points to the theory of Forms and the Form of the Good.…”

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Plato's Charmides

Tsouna

2022

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The Charmides is a difficult and enigmatic dialogue traditionally considered one of Plato's Socratic dialogues. This book provides a close text commentary on the dialogue which tracks particular motifs throughout. These notably include the characterization of Critias, Charmides, and Socrates; the historical context and subtext, literary features such as irony and foreshadowing; the philosophical context and especially how the dialogue looks back to more traditional Socratic dialogues and forward to dialogues traditionally placed in Plato's middle and late period; and most importantly the philosophical and logical details of the arguments and their dialectical function. A new translation of the dialogue is included in an appendix. This will be essential reading for all scholars and students of Plato and of ancient philosophy.

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Plato's Charmides

Tsouna

2022

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“…By Gary Alan Scott (Pennsylvania State Press, 2002). On the separation of Plato as writer and Socrates as narrator, and the far-reaching results that can ensue, see again McKim, (1985). On the educational aim of the dialogue, see Charles Kahn, "Plato's Charmides and the proleptic reading of Socratic dialogues", Journal of Philosophy 85 (10), (1988).…”

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“Exactly as you see me” (Charmides 153b8)

Ayalon

2018

J. anc. philos. (Engl. ed.)

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Plato’s Charmides is a narrated dialogue. In this paper, I will argue that the literary device of narration plays an interesting and resourceful role in advancing the philosophical aims and ideas presented in the text. In particular, it exposes the inner workings of the souls of the dialogue’s characters, thus enabling us, the readers, to judge whether the inner and outer projections of each character cohere. One of the most important definitions of sophrosune suggested in the Charmides is that moderation is self-knowledge, which is expressed in a strong correlation between what one feels and thinks and their actions. I will argue that the narration of the dialogue aids and exemplifies the philosophical lesson it teaches about sophrosune, even if the suggested definition of the virtue is formally rejected.

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“…If indeed Plato intends for his reader to make this connection, it is important to ask why Plato would have Socrates raise objections to his own brand of self‐knowledge. See Carone, ; Tsouna, ; and McKim, , pp. 61–2.…”

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Knowledge and Temperance in Plato'sCharmides

Clark

2018

Pacific Philosophical Qtr

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Toward the end of the Charmides, Socrates declares the search for temperance a ‘complete failure’ (175b2‐3). Despite this, commentators have suspected that the dialogue might contain an implicit answer about temperance. I propose a new interpretation: the dialogue implies that temperance is the knowledge of good and bad, when this knowledge is applied specifically to certain operations of the soul. This amounts to a kind of self‐knowledge; it also involves a kind of reflexivity, for it involves knowing about the value of one's knowledge. This positive reading, more than any other, makes sense of the dialogue's dramatic and dialectic features.

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Socratic Self-Knowledge and "Knowledge of Knowledge" in Plato's Charmides

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Plato's Charmides

Plato's Charmides

“Exactly as you see me” (Charmides 153b8)

Knowledge and Temperance in Plato'sCharmides

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