2021
DOI: 10.5194/acp-21-14687-2021
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Surface deposition of marine fog and its treatment in the Weather Research and Forecasting (WRF) model

Abstract: Abstract. There have been many studies of marine fog, some using Weather Research and Forecasting (WRF) and other models. Several model studies report overpredictions of near-surface liquid water content (Qc), leading to visibility estimates that are too low. This study has found the same. One possible cause of this overestimation could be the treatment of a surface deposition rate of fog droplets at the underlying water surface. Most models, including the Advanced Research Weather Research and Forecasting (WR… Show more

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“…The initial idea behind this analysis was that, in marine fog, cloud droplets can both fall towards the underlying surface through gravitational settling and be diffused towards the surface by turbulence, and on contact they can coalesce with an underlying water surface. Taylor et al (2021) apply these ideas to fog modelling with the WRF (Weather Research and Forecasting) model. During reviews of that work and an earlier version of the current paper, it became clear that some reviewers were reluctant to accept that turbulence could cause fog droplets to collide and coalesce with an underlying surface and even more reluctant to see this as a constant-fluxlayer situation.…”
Section: Discussionmentioning
confidence: 99%
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“…The initial idea behind this analysis was that, in marine fog, cloud droplets can both fall towards the underlying surface through gravitational settling and be diffused towards the surface by turbulence, and on contact they can coalesce with an underlying water surface. Taylor et al (2021) apply these ideas to fog modelling with the WRF (Weather Research and Forecasting) model. During reviews of that work and an earlier version of the current paper, it became clear that some reviewers were reluctant to accept that turbulence could cause fog droplets to collide and coalesce with an underlying surface and even more reluctant to see this as a constant-fluxlayer situation.…”
Section: Discussionmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…This could be the case with long-range transport of aerosol in air blowing out over a rural area, a lake or the ocean. Another example could be fog droplets formed at the top of a fog layer and deposited at the underlying surface (Taylor et al, 2021).…”
Section: A Simple Model With Added Gravitational Settlingmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…In collaboration with the Fatima [1] project, my group at York University has been studying and forecasting fog occurrence over the Canadian, coastal N. Atlantic, and over the Yellow Sea near Korea. Our early studies [2,3] with the forecast model, WRF, introduced the idea that the ocean water surface should be a sink for cloud droplets as well as a source for water vapor. In parallel with our WRF modeling, we have developed a separate boundary-layer cloud model.…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%