“…I was interested in understanding how these experiences, and other past encounters with powerful 'others,' were brought to bear on their ongoing talks with Occidental Petroleum Company, a US-based oil company, which at the time held the rights to exploit resources below Secoya territory (Krøijer 2003(Krøijer , 2017. Over the next many years, I worked with the Secoya indigenous organisations in Peru and Ecuador on a binational land rights claim which would enable them to (re)establish a continuous binational territory in a border area historically torn by war, colonisation, and the effects of the rubber boom in the Upper Amazon (Casement 1913;Hardenburg 1913;Taussig 1987;Vickers 1989a;Santos-Granero and Barclay 2002;Wasserstrom 2014). When I returned again for long-term fieldwork in 2014-15, the Secoya were in talks with a Chinese-owned company, Andes Petrol Ecuador Ltd, which was bent on drilling two exploratory wells in the immediate vicinity of San Pablo Katëtsiaya.…”