2020
DOI: 10.1111/ele.13483
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Technical comment on Condamine et al. (2019): a cautionary note for users of linear diversification dependencies

Abstract: Condamine et al. (2019; 22: 1900–1912) fitted linear and exponential functions of time‐dependent, diversity‐dependent and temperature‐dependent diversification to investigate diversification dynamics of tetrapod families. Here I highlight potential misinterpretations when using linear diversification dependencies and provide some clarifications.

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“…These clarifications being given, we agree with Gamisch (2020) that our sentence ( A positive αβ reflects a slowdown of speciation (extinction) towards the present, while a negative αβ reflects a speed‐up of speciation (extinction) towards the present p. 1902) is imprecise. Similarly, the sentence ( A positive αβ indicates that speciation (extinction) rates are higher under warm climatic periods, while a negative αβ indicates that speciation (extinction) rates are higher under cold climatic periods p. 1903) is imprecise.…”
Section: Introductionsupporting
confidence: 87%
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“…These clarifications being given, we agree with Gamisch (2020) that our sentence ( A positive αβ reflects a slowdown of speciation (extinction) towards the present, while a negative αβ reflects a speed‐up of speciation (extinction) towards the present p. 1902) is imprecise. Similarly, the sentence ( A positive αβ indicates that speciation (extinction) rates are higher under warm climatic periods, while a negative αβ indicates that speciation (extinction) rates are higher under cold climatic periods p. 1903) is imprecise.…”
Section: Introductionsupporting
confidence: 87%
“…In our paper ‘Assessing the causes of diversification slowdowns: temperature‐dependent and diversity‐dependent models receive equivalent support’ (Condamine et al 2019), we fitted several diversification models to 218 phylogenies of tetrapod families to confirm that diversification slowdowns are common, and to show that this widespread pattern may in part be associated with cooling temperatures during the Cenozoic. Gamisch (2020) does not question these main results, but comments on the interpretation of linear diversification dependencies fitted in the R‐package RPANDA (Morlon et al 2016). Here we take this opportunity to provide further clarifications and recommendations for users.…”
Section: Introductionmentioning
confidence: 99%
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“…A final issue relates to the recent criticism of linear diversity dependencies in RPANDA 21 , which is therefore relevant not only to the study of Sun et al 1 but also to similar ones using this R package. In short, linear diversification dependencies can lead to negative λ and/or µ rates that would be positivised in the current implementation of RPANDA 21,22 . In such cases, a rate curve is fitted that is first decreasing backwards in time and then increasing again (e.g.…”
Section: Rpanda Issue Cmentioning
confidence: 99%
“…Supplementary Fig. 1), leading to biologically questionable scenarios 21,22 . When performing initial test runs, I identified that this linear diversitydependency issue in RPANDA 21 also applies to some of the models tested by the authors (e.g.…”
Section: Rpanda Issue Cmentioning
confidence: 99%