“…Power dynamics can emerge due to differences "such as Western-non-Western, older-younger, blackness-whiteness, academic-non-academic, high formal education-no formal education" (Hovde et al, 2021). These differences are often unavoidable and it is important that researchers acknowledge them and their own positionality for overcoming dichotomies, understanding alternative ways of being and knowing (Jimenez et al, 2022), and for producing knowledge In what follows, we discuss the data collection methods and the findings for each phase separately, to provide a more streamlined overview of our work, showcase the conceptual links between the two, and the ways in which our co-creation approach informed and shaped the second phase.…”