Matsumura et al. (1) report a chromosome-level genome assembly of Momordica charantia, an important vegetable and medicinal plant in the family Cucurbitaceae, and then use resequencing to infer the divergence between wild samples with "[var.] muricata-type morphology" and cultivated samples (var. charantia). The initial domestication was dated to 6,000 y ago, followed by the separation of further cultivars 800 y ago. A parallel study by Cui et al. (2) (with partly overlapping authorship) instead inferred that wild bitter gourds and the lineage that gave rise to var. muricata and var. charantia diverged ∼1.9 Mya (ref. 1, figures 2c and S10), while the split between muricata and charantia is again dated to ∼6,000 y ago. The ∼1.9-Mya-old wild lineage, called TR group, has seeds barely one-half the size of var. muricata and var. charantia seeds (Fig. 1). Why these contrasting inferences? Matsumura et al. (1) included 44 cultivated bitter gourds from Asia and 1 from Belize, plus 15 supposedly wild accessions from Taiwan, Thailand, and the Philippines. No material is illustrated or vouchered in an herbarium, and some accessions (e.g., THMC170) are labeled as wild in the phylogenies but as cultivar in table S5. Cui et al. (2) included 187 accessions from Asia, Africa, and South America, and rooted their phylogeny on two African species. Including African material was important because M. charantia occurs wild in Africa, Madagascar, and India (and naturalized in many tropical regions; refs. 3 and 4), and is used as a medicinal plant