“…Since 1963 a highly professionalized organization, the American Association of Pastoral Counselors has provided pastoral counseling training based on theology and psychology/psychotherapy (for a history of this movement see VanWagner, 1983;Strunk, 1984). While some disagreement exists about amount and type of training needed (see Hiltner, 1964;Clinebell, 1964) it is widely recognized that counseling is a vital part of the parish minister's role (Switzer, 1983;Hiltner, 1949). A second reason for rejection is grounded in empirical data.…”