Abstract. Which non-educational processes will influence the development of universities in 15-20 years? Whom will universities compete with? How will education markets change? What will be the relationship between future universities and external environment, society, government, businesses, and other universities? The future of universities is discussed between Yaroslav Kuzminov, Rector of the National Research University Higher School of Economics (HSE), and Dmitry Peskov, Director of the Young Professionals Direction at the Agency for Strategic Initiatives. The meeting was organized by the journal Voprosy obrazovaniya.